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toto <scarecrow@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Tue, 13 May 2008 06:48:00 -0700 (PDT), Beliavsky
><beliavsky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>On May 12, 10:08pm, Ablang <ron...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Despite high school algebra focus, more students need remedial college
>>> math
>>> By Deb Kollars - dkollars at sacbee.com
>>> Published 12:00 am PDT Monday, May 12, 2008
>>> Five years ago, California took a bold step and began requiring
>>> algebra of every graduating high school senior. The grumbling ran
>>> deep. The work was hard. The underlying equation came through loud and
>>> clear:
>>> More math in high school would equal more students prepared for
>>> college.
>>> For many, it hasn't added up.
>>> In a pattern that has area math professors scratching their heads,
>>> some community colleges are seeing an increase in the numbers and
>>> pro****tions of entering students who can't do algebra, or even basic
>>> arithmetic.
>>They should read "The Bell Curve" or Charles Murray's recent essay
>>"The age of educational romanticism: On requiring every child to be
>>above average"
>>by Charles Murray
>>http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/The-age-of-educational-romanticism-3835.
>>Most people are not smart enough to go to college, but they can be
>>productive members of society. People who have not mastered algebra
>>should not be in college in the first place.
>http://secondlanguagewriting.com/explorations/Archives/2006/May/ForgetIQJustworkhard.html
>Forget IQ. Just work hard!
>I mentioned this back in December, but it's worth repeating. Dave
>Munger ("High IQ: Not as good for you as you thought", Cognitive
>Daily) re****ted on some research by Angela Duckworth and Martin
>Seligman that investigates the question,
> Could a more robust measure of self-discipline demonstrate that
>it's more relevant to academic performance than IQ?
> To address this question, Duckworth and Seligman conducted a
>two-year study of eighth graders, combining several measures of
>self-discipline for a more reliable measure, and also *****sing IQ,
>achievement test scores, grades, and several other measures of
>academic performance. Using this better measure of self-discipline,
>they found that self-discipline was a significantly better predictor
>of academic performance 7 months later than IQ.
There is academic performance, and there is academic
performance. The results of academic performance
are valid ONLY if the courses taken are comparable.
They are not, and those in strong academic departments
know this. Most departments give service courses for
those who claim they will not use the material, and
even courses for students just trying to be allowed
to put a BA after their names. Students with high
IQ's are scarce in such courses.
Grades obtained are so bad an indication that when
I look at applications I never look at the GPA; this
comes from decades of experience.
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This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558
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