On Jul 17, 6:36=A0pm, Force Majeure <ForceMaje...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Blackwater <b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT), Robert S
> > <roberts2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >On 17 Jul, 01:19, c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > >> In article
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> Robert S <roberts2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > On 16 Jul, 02:13, =3DA7=3DA7 KR=3DA5K=3DA5T =3DA7...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Robert S
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> > >> > > <roberts2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > > >On Jul 15, 7:51 pm, abelard <abela...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> > > >Slight warming is unequivocal. The pro****tion, or lack
thereof,=
caused
> > >> > > >by man is very much equivocal.
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> > >> > > >How's the Sun doing now? We might be in for a new mini ice
age.
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> > >> > > That would be kewel! :)
>
> > >> > Climate is constantly changing, and has been for hundreds of
milli=
ons
> > >> > of years empirically. But changing about an equilibrium point.
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> > >> > Yet, miraculously, the present climate is apparently nirvana,
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> > >> In fact it is, in the sense that both the biota and human cultures
> > >> are adapted to the current climate.
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> > >What was the average temperature over the time period in which
> > >humanity evolved? I'll wager quiet different from what it is right
> > >now, purely from a statical point of view.
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> > =A0 =A0Since the climate is never "settled", you can pick most ANY
> > =A0 =A0instant in time and 'prove' that todays situation is unique
> > =A0 =A0and 'abnormal'. How'd the man phrase it ... "Lies, damned
> > =A0 =A0lies - and statistics" ? =A0:-)
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> > >> > and any deviation from it will be disastrous.
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> > >> And because both the biota and human cultures are
> > >> adapted to the current climate, then deviations
> > >> do in fact have the potential to be disasterous.
>
> > >> If the current average global temperature were five degrees
> > >> warmer -- or cooler -- then the same arguments
> > >> would apply.
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> > >Humanity lives in deserts and in tundra and everywhere in between.
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> > >Sentience enables very, very rapid adaption.
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> > =A0 =A0Yep. WE will survive quite nicely ... well, SOME of us, the
> > =A0 =A0species anyway. However there are a LOT of people who now
> > =A0 =A0live in very marginal environments and really can't move
> > =A0 =A0anywhere else. Most of THEM will perish if there's a big
> > =A0 =A0climate swing ... a couple billion perhaps ? There will
> > =A0 =A0also be resource wars - the poor and deprived predating on
> > =A0 =A0other poor deprived people ... fighting over water, farm
> > =A0 =A0land, wood and such. Add another billion casualties.
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> > =A0 =A0Of course some 'marginal' environments will become GOOD
> > =A0 =A0environments because of climate ****fts. SOME people will
> > =A0 =A0benifit, flourish ... somewhat offsetting the losses.
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> Some idiots think that the arctic tundra will become arable farm land!
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> I've already sucked up all the property in Moose Factory on Hudson Bay.
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> I plan on creating "new Miami Beach" up there.
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> Yeah! =A0That's the ticket!
=95=95=A0Your satire would be great if you didn't louse
it up. Moose Factory is not on Hudson Bay.
It is an island in James Bay at the mouth of
the Moose River.
The island is the property of the Canadian
government. Yes, I've been there.
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