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Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?

by Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 24, 2008 at 04:00 AM

malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>> malcolmkirkpatr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> >I'm a skeptic all around. I don't see why an expanding human
>> >population with increasingly powerful technology --couldn't-- have an
>> >impact on global climate, but I also don't see how people who assert
>> >that anthropogenic global warming has occurred can be so sure.
>
>> Rapidly melting polar ice at both poles is kinda hard to argue with.
>
>Yes, it is.
>a) What does it mean? Volcanos under the antarctic ice cap? Solar
>heating, or CO2?

No evidence of sufficient volcanism to explain the symptoms.  No
evidence of an increase in solar heating to explain the receding ice
caps.

>b) "Rapidly" relative to what? Again, you need a solid record for
>comparison, and our observations don't go back all that far.

I believe that the core samples of the ice sheets go quite far back.
There is the historically unsuccessful search for the Northwest
passage to show that the impending opening of a Northwest passage is
unprecedented in several hundred years.

>> >The Earth's temperature has fluctuated wildly over the last 300
million
>> >years. In the last 5 million, it has been remarkably unstable.
>
>> We have no reason to believe that it has ever been this unstable.  
>
>Yes, we do. The Younger Dryas came on in a few decades.

But apparently wasn't global, since the Southern Hemisphere was out of
sync by a thousand years.  They also have mechanisms to explain it
which are not operative now.

>Ditto the
>Little Ice Age and the Medieval warming that preceeded the 50 years of
>cooling before the Black Death.

Not as rapid nor as large.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Lojban language www.lojban.org
 




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Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 11:44:38 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-15 20:51:29 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-15 18:53:20 
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Joe <joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 20:57:32 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-15 20:11:07 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-15 22:56:40 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-26 14:36:28 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-27 23:04:38 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-15 14:55:30 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-16 00:05:39 
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§§ KRĄKĄT §§@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-15 22:13:06 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-17 15:05:45 
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bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bl  2008-07-17 22:19:55 
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Force Majeure <ForceMa  2008-07-17 18:36:40 
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bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bl  2008-07-18 20:06:40 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-17 22:21:06 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-17 20:07:37 
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"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 04:54:12 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 16:52:18 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-15 16:02:50 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-16 01:23:30 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:53:15 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-17 01:42:57 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-17 02:08:12 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:53:44 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:57:21 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-17 00:19:38 
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Roger Dewhurst <dewhur  2008-07-17 15:38:15 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-17 14:51:53 
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"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 04:36:02 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 16:48:22 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-23 20:39:34 
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"Gen. Gus Cann"  2008-07-23 22:12:04 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-28 01:50:15 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-28 14:25:24 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-28 18:31:32 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 20:20:17 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 04:00:53 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 20:39:42 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"Gen. Gus Cann"  2008-07-24 01:26:01 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 11:47:09 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-25 16:02:20 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 11:57:05 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-27 19:03:14 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-28 18:55:06 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-28 14:16:44 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-29 00:50:24 

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