Re: study of red****rting (late entrance to kndergarten)

In article <u48i84l7634smogv3fbickrkb7n3eeksu6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bob LeChevalier  <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Herman Rubin) wrote:
>>In article <8udg845cun7po5t63gdahl75n08r694njo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>Bob LeChevalier  <lojbab@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>hrubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Herman Rubin) wrote:
>>>>Why should a child be at the same stage in all subjects?

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>Without the cogs, society breaks down real quick.

Not that quickly, and I have not proposed not teaching
the cogs; in fact, I have proposed teaching them more.

			 And "improving
>society" is not something that everyone wants, especially if it means
>putting an elite above everyone else. 

We are not putting up an elite.  We are using standard
competition, and allowing those who can do better at
something to do it.  Even plumbers are an "elite".

>Egalitarianism, and tearing down elites is part of our culture, and
>has been since the 1620s.

Hereditary elites, yes.  But we need "elites" like teachers,
researchers, and even politicians, the last regrettably.

>>Do you think this does not happen in the imposed boredom in
>>the schools?  

>Do you think that 90% of the people who aren't gifted give a damn?

So let the other 10% out of the public schools to learn
what they can.  If you forget about them, they will learn
more, and this WILL be funded.  Or just allocate half of
what it costs to keep them imprisoned, and it will be
returned with interest.

>>Children are different, and treating them all
>>the same causes real abuse to the ones who do not fit.

>Doing anything else costs more money.

Not so.

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>Kids are required BY LAW to have adult supervision.  If they aren't
>all doing the same thing, then there needs to be more adults rather
>than fewer.  Non-special-ed services in public schools don't cost much
>more than day-care.

I know of no law requiring them to be so supervised
except during school hours, with restrictions for 
very small children.  Are children supervised after
coming home from school, say at 3PM or so?


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>>They were before the Deepression.

>You keep saying it, but all the evidence I have seen contradicts that
>claim.

I was there, and I saw the changes being made.

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