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Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?

by abelard <abelard3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 28, 2008 at 01:50 AM

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:48:22 -0700 (PDT), malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Jul 15, 8:56 pm, abelard wrote:
>> Cary Kittrell wrote:
>
>> >> > What to choose, what to choose?....
>> >> Oh, offhand I'd say you should believe those who say that there is
an
>> >> 'underlying warming trend' even though there hasn't been any warming
for
>> >> a decade
>>
>> >Oh, I dunno...this looks pretty trendy for me, over the last decade.
>> >And further:
>> >
 http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2007/ann/global-jan-dec...
>> > Or, you could look at it this way:
>>
>> >  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3045976.ece
>>
>> >> and we don't yet have access to temperature records for the
>> >> next fifty years...
>>
>> please don't confuse people with facts....
>> using facts on moonbats is taking unfair advantage
>
>Snark isn't an argument. There are some problems with the chart. "Mean
>global temperature" has never been measured by a valid test. 

there is no such thing as one 'valid test' for 'mean global
     temperature'

there is not some 'average temperature' out there....
there are only agreed definitions of an average temperature....
   along with instructions on how to take appropriate reading....
   and then instructions on the process of calculating your defined
   'average'

what is necessary is repeatability of the process....
then gathering series of data...and then comparing those
    series...eg year to year....

http://www.abelard.org/briefings/gathering_data_to_test_global_warming.php
http://www.abelard.org/news/ecology0805.php#measuring_temperatures_020608

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Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 11:44:38 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-15 20:51:29 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-15 18:53:20 
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Joe <joe@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-15 20:57:32 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-15 20:11:07 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-15 22:56:40 
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malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-26 14:36:28 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-27 23:04:38 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-15 14:55:30 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-16 00:05:39 
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§§ KR¥K¥T §§@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-15 22:13:06 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-17 15:05:45 
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bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bl  2008-07-17 22:19:55 
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Force Majeure <ForceMa  2008-07-17 18:36:40 
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bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bl  2008-07-18 20:06:40 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-17 22:21:06 
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Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-17 20:07:37 
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"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 04:54:12 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 16:52:18 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-15 16:02:50 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-16 01:23:30 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:53:15 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-17 01:42:57 
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abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-17 02:08:12 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:53:44 
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Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-16 14:57:21 
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cary@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-17 00:19:38 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Roger Dewhurst <dewhur  2008-07-17 15:38:15 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Robert S <roberts218e@  2008-07-17 14:51:53 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"leonard78sp@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 04:36:02 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 16:48:22 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-23 20:39:34 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"Gen. Gus Cann"  2008-07-23 22:12:04 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-28 01:50:15 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-28 14:25:24 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-28 18:31:32 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 20:20:17 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-24 04:00:53 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 20:39:42 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
"Gen. Gus Cann"  2008-07-24 01:26:01 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 11:47:09 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
Bob LeChevalier <lojba  2008-07-25 16:02:20 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 11:57:05 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-27 19:03:14 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-28 18:55:06 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
malcolmkirkpatrick@[EMAIL  2008-07-28 14:16:44 
Re: Wikipedia Promoting Global Warming Hysteria?
abelard <abelard3@[EMA  2008-07-29 00:50:24 

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