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Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence

by Richard Ulrich <Rich.Ulrich@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 30, 2008 at 09:52 PM

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:24:42 GMT, Paul Rubin <rubin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

[snip, preceding]
> 
> I believe there's a "metatheorem" that with a big enough sample you can 
> reject just about any simply null hypothesis.  In this case your null is

[snip, rest]

No, that statement of what pertains is nonsensical.
It would never apply to the process of randomization.

The relevant "meta-theorem" might say that in an
observational study, a large enough N will result in
apparent statistical significance for some simple tests, 
because other underlying sources of dependency or bias 
were not accounted for.

The problem is weak design combined with large N.
We can get away with a lot of approximations to 
"meeting all the assumptions" when the N is small, 
 - that is, not thousands - because the usual biases are 
small.

-- 
Rich Ulrich 

http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
 




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help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
jenmoocat <sollje2002@  2008-03-29 18:54:38 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
"Phil Holman" &  2008-03-29 22:13:14 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
jenmoocat <sollje2002@  2008-03-30 00:22:05 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
Paul Rubin <rubin@[EMA  2008-03-30 15:24:42 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
Richard Ulrich <Rich.U  2008-03-30 21:52:23 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
jenmoocat <sollje2002@  2008-03-30 10:05:36 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
Paul Rubin <rubin@[EMA  2008-03-30 17:11:04 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
Richard Ulrich <Rich.U  2008-03-30 21:44:59 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
jenmoocat <sollje2002@  2008-03-31 08:22:00 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
Paul Rubin <rubin@[EMA  2008-03-31 16:03:08 
Re: help with thoughts about the chi square test of independence
mcap <mcam54@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-31 21:00:18 

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