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Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or in the DoD?

by DarkProtoman <Protoman2050@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 16, 2007 at 09:02 PM

On Apr 16, 8:15 pm, Straydog <a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, DarkProtoman wrote:
> > How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or the DoD?
> > BTW, I'm in high school, I took California's High School Proficency
> > Exam, and I'm now eligible to enroll in Cypress College's Honors
> > Program. I'm 16.
>
> > Earn an AS in Biology while enrolled in the Cypress College Honors
> > Program
> > Earn a SB in Biology and a minor in mathematics at MIT
> > Earn a MPhil in Biochemistry from King's College of Cambridge
> > University
> > Earn a SM in Bioengineering from the Harvard School of Engineering and
> > Applied Sciences
> > Earn a MD from the Harvard-MIT HST program, become aHHMI-NIHResearch
> > Scholar during sophomore year
> > Earn a PhD in Bioengineering from MIT
> > Take internal medicine residency at Massachusets General Hospital
> > Take postdoc(s) at Genentech, MIT, Harvard, and/or Cambridge.
>
> > How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or the DoD?
>
> Take my word for it, you don't need that much. Just get a BS from one of
> the top 10-20 undergrad schools (preferably elite [if you can get in]),
> then--seriously--skip the MS degree, and get your PhD from one of the
top
> 10-20researchuniversities. Then, to top off, do your postdoc, also, at
> one of the top 10-20 elite labs (if biology, then eg. Cold Spring
Harbor,
> Whitehead).
>
> Get the MD in a MD-PhD prgram (5 years, it should be). But, don't forget
> you have to get _in_ medical school.
>
> Do NOT do postdocs in private industry. Only do one postdoc, not less
than
> 3 years, not more than 4.
>
> You would do well to avoid being associated with Nobel prise winners
> because they always (unless you can demonstrate otherwise) are out
giving
> seminars all over the world making more money off honorariums than their
> salaries. You want a guy who will be around to mentor you and help you
get
> your career going.
>
> > Thanks!!!!
>
> > BTW, what would I put on my labcoat/nameplate if I successfully
> > complete this plan? All of my degrees, or just the highest --MD,
PhD--?
>
> If you get both MD & PhD, then you can put them both (forget lessor
> degrees) on and have one-upsman****p over those who have only one
> doctorate.
>
> Don't forget one thing: the war is NOT with credential collection like
you
> listed above. The war is about making significant discoveries and
> contributions (papers in peer-reviewed journals) AND getting large
> grants/contracts AND surviving the politics.
>
> Best advice: start making contact (if you are interested in biomedical
> outcomes) with people in labs doing grant-fundedresearchand see if you
> can get any kind of part-time lab work (so you can get close to many
> people actually doing realresearchand talk with them), or even
> volunteer work. If you play this right, you get them (faculty) to write
> letters of recommendation for you (you will need these).
>
> Me, I am a retiredresearchprofessor. I was at UMAB SoM (Baltimore),
> Departments of Biophysics and Pathology. Hopkins was our competitor, not
> Georgetown.
>
>
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Why should I skip the master's degrees? Aren't they supposed to be
prep for the PhD? And I really do want to spend some time at
Cambridge. The only reason I'm not doing my undergrad there is that it
might be difficult to get into a US med school like HMS. I don't plan
on being associated w/ Nobel prize winners, just elite institutions.

What was your academic history? Degrees, awards, etc.

This really is GREAT advice!  Any other advice I should know?

Thanks!
 




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How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or in th
DarkProtoman <Protoman  2007-04-16 19:33:50 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
Straydog <asd@[EMAIL P  2007-04-16 23:15:22 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
DarkProtoman <Protoman  2007-04-16 21:02:22 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
Aging_Recycled_Scientist   2007-04-17 02:50:55 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
Straydog <asd@[EMAIL P  2007-04-17 09:45:57 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
carrera d'olbani <dolb  2007-04-17 06:59:38 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
rick++ <rick303@[EMAIL  2007-04-17 07:12:47 
To darkprotoman...
Straydog <asd@[EMAIL P  2007-04-17 10:26:21 
Re: How would this look for a career in academia, industry, or i
carrera d'olbani <dolb  2007-04-17 07:51:12 
Re: To darkprotoman...
DarkProtoman <Protoman  2007-04-17 12:45:07 
Re: To darkprotoman...
Straydog <asd@[EMAIL P  2007-04-17 20:07:22 

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