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Re: Use of XML?

by JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTECTED] >verizon.net> Dec 18, 2007 at 06:18 PM

Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

<snip>
>      BUT: with regards to genealogy, one has the problem of either some
> organization defining a "doctype" for use (having a "doctype" file
> defining the construct of a valid XML file allows for validation of XML
> files -- without using a custom validator; the validator read the
> defining doctype file and uses IT to validate the construct of the XML
> file), or one leaves it freely defined.
> 
>      But... more... if one is going to use a validating XML parser, and 
a
> validation doctype supplied by some organization, one has the same
> problem as GEDCOM... It is quite likely that the doctype definition 
will
> not sup****t all features of the most complex programs (typically those
> of the event-based systems: the late Ultimate Family Tree and the 
living
> The Master Genealogist) or will specify stuff not sup****ted by the
> simpler programs (Family Tree Maker; from the GEDCOMs I've seen,
> practically any data item that is not a pure BMDB or relation****p
> becomes a generic "fact" or "note").
> 
>      Unvalidated XML would allow each program to define the structures
> that are best matches for its data... but will not be usable by other

Well, it's hard to remedy complex to simple data scenarios, but I don't 
think it's impossible. At a minimum if a schema is agreed to that is a 
"lowest common denominator", then evolution happens, and the defacto 
common denominator gets extended naturally. As for "proprietary" 
granularity, it's somewhat transparant by virtue of a schema with known 
rules, and at least a minimum schema standard that requires a software 
name & version.

> programs... How is a program that expects:
> 
> <date>mm/dd/yyyy</date>
> 
> going to handle a file generated by a program that produces:
> 
> <date>
>      <year>yyyy</year>
>      <month>mm</month>
>      <day>dd</dd>
> </date>
> 
Simply by "remapping" back & forth because the expected formats are 
defined in each schema. We can even add an attribute that indicates the 
calendar type without mucking things up.

>> standard (ie Microsoft), rather than
>> a proper standard for all such as
>> GEDCOM.
>> 
>> So should not we avoid a proprietary
>> standard?
>> 
Yes, but more im****tantly I think we need to look at the actual data, and 
not build "trees" or other judgements into the DATA, other than in the 
form of a heirarchy (which can be changed without loss of data integrity 
if we think about it analytically, imo).
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Tom              [Tom Perrett]        <tomp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> 
>>
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-17 20:55:19 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-17 21:01:21 
Re: Use of XML?
"Tom Perrett" &  2007-12-17 21:39:15 
Re: Use of XML?
"Steve W. Jackson&qu  2007-12-17 16:07:28 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-17 23:49:02 
Re: Use of XML?
"Tom Perrett" &  2007-12-18 00:10:04 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-17 23:47:37 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-18 00:25:19 
Re: Use of XML?
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-18 08:55:30 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-18 18:43:03 
Re: Use of XML?
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-12-18 21:39:29 
Re: Use of XML?
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-12-19 08:09:16 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-19 22:22:24 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-19 22:46:07 
Re: Use of XML?
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-12-18 21:49:32 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-19 13:39:50 
Re: Use of XML?
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-12-19 11:19:22 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-19 17:09:27 
Re: Use of XML?
"T.M. Sommers"   2007-12-18 01:01:11 
Re: Use of XML?
Dennis Lee Bieber <wlf  2007-12-17 22:18:19 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-18 18:18:24 
Re: Use of XML?
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-12-18 21:41:50 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-19 17:11:59 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-17 23:57:56 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-18 00:30:18 
Re: Use of XML?
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-12-18 10:38:44 
Re: Use of XML?
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-12-18 10:52:02 
Re: Use of XML?
JD <jd4x4@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-12-19 02:16:54 

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