On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:08:07 +0000, Ian Goddard <goddai01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> Robert Melson wrote:
>> Ever re****t spam to Google? They obviously don't give a
>> damn and have chosen to ignore their responsibilities, as
>> you'll see from their return message.
> Self-fulfilling prophecy.
> If they only get a few complaints then maybe so. What we need is sheer
> volume.
HAVE you compared google's response to that of some other ISPs? Google
is particularly uncaring about it. Besides, with free gmail addresses
taking whole seconds to create, you're just playing whack-a-mole.
> The alternative might be to hit the site and delivery shed-loads of
> click throughs. The spammer will be pleased. Google will be pleased -
> right up to the time when the advertisers get wind of the fact that
> they're being ripped off and want their money back or at least decide
> that they're wasting money and take their business elsewhere.
I've got legitimate google ads on some of my sites. Abusing the
mechanism to punish spammers, would punish those of us who don't abuse
it. Not a good solution.
> Again
> volume is the key. In the long term it has to be in Google's interest
> to deliver quality leads to their advertisers and encouraging this
> garbage doesn't do it.
Your concept is OK but your proposals for execution are unworkable.
Here's a suggestion on how to fix it, at least as seen at your end.
1. Subscribe to a newsfeed which filters out the obvious spam before you
even see it. news.individual.net costs 20 bucks a year or so, and
blocks a lot of the crap I see people complain about but don't see in my
newsreader.
2. Use a newsreader that sup****ts killfiles, especially one that allows
you to use regular expressions (regexp) for killfile rules.
3. Block anything crossposted to 3 or more groups. It's either spam, or
a cross-posted troll. Of course there may be counterexamples but,
signal:noise ratio being what it is, the occasional on-topic message
that HAPPENS to be right for 3 groups at a time, is rare enough that
I'll risk missing it to throw out all the trolls & spam that rule hits.
Sure, re****t spam when you think it will do good. I've been doing it
for years. But playing whack-a-mole, or denial of service games against
google, isn't going to get you anywhere, and MIGHT just annoy your ISP
enough that _you_ are the one who has to find a new provider.
Dave Hinz
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