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Re: Altavista better than Google for genealogy searches

by Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 03:33 AM

On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:54:14 -0700, JJ206
<jj206@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Steve Hayes wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 07:50:42 -0500, "Texas Gen" <texas.gen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow----I used Altavista and you are right.  When you are doing a
genealogy 
>>> search maybe use both and whatever other good search engines? 
>> 
>> The thing about Altavista is that my Growden page is specifically about
the
>> family history and genealogy of that particular family, so if someone
is
>> looking for that, it should come up in the first page or two.
>> 
>> On Altavista, it came up with a page of relevant search results. 
>> 
>> On Google that particular page still hadn't come up after 17 pages.
There were
>> quite a lot of pages dealing with papers by a neurologist Dr Growdon
who
>> referred to the family history of his patients and research subjects --
fair
>> enough. There was some stuff I could use, even on page 16 and 17. 
>
>So by your own admission, Altavista eliminated many sites that google 
>shows you (to make up your own mind) and tells you those that are 
>relevant to your search. Google is better as it lets me control more 
>data. Is there a setting on Altavista that lets you increase your hits ? 
>With google, you can easily add -Dr. Growdon with the minus sign to cut 
>out all those hits. But I would not do that out of hand.

My "own admission"?

I think you've missed the point somewhere. 

Firstly, I wasn't complaining about those things being listed in the
search,
just noting that they were. 

Secondly, putting -Dr would not elminate most of them from the search
results
because many of the authors of the academic research papers are listed
without
their academic titles -- as "Growden, JH" for example. 

I tried another experiment, sugested by another poster on the list, and
entered "growdon genealogy" in both Google and Altavista.

The first page on Google brought up a bunch of generic commercial sites,
while
the first page on Altavista produced relevant results. 

Growden is a fairly rare surname, and Growdon is a less common variant.
Perhaps others researching uncommon surnames could try a similar test and
see
which search engine comes up with the most relevant results.


-- 
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
     http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm
     http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/
 




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Altavista better than Google for genealogy searches
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-15 04:38:17 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2008-05-14 22:47:40 
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chrisj.doran@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 20:14:19 
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Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 06:24:10 
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"Don Moody" <  2008-05-15 10:10:08 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-15 12:50:26 
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"Texas Gen" <  2008-05-15 07:50:42 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-15 20:44:46 
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John <jhy001@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 19:46:29 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-15 16:54:14 
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John Cartmell <john@[E  2008-05-16 09:38:15 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-17 03:33:55 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-15 15:14:23 
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Josiah Jenkins <josiah  2008-05-17 00:17:59 
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Josiah Jenkins <josiah  2008-05-21 02:26:52 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-20 13:14:18 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-20 18:30:18 
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"Gene Y." <p  2008-05-20 16:20:34 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-20 21:59:47 
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John Prentice <johnp.u  2008-05-21 10:58:27 
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John Prentice <johnp.u  2008-05-21 22:42:24 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-22 00:18:22 
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John Prentice <johnp.u  2008-05-22 11:03:18 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-22 17:54:47 
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Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2008-05-22 09:17:46 
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"Johnny" <th  2008-05-22 20:16:24 
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John Prentice <johnp.u  2008-05-23 09:55:57 
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"Johnny" <th  2008-05-24 17:51:46 
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John Prentice <johnp.u  2008-05-25 22:06:50 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-25 19:42:53 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-21 00:07:09 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 01:19:16 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 01:33:13 
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"Steven Gibbs"   2008-05-20 09:43:27 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-20 09:54:52 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 08:13:42 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-20 14:23:48 
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Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 16:53:41 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-21 11:25:45 
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Josiah Jenkins <josiah  2008-05-21 02:32:05 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-21 00:13:14 
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Allen <allen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-21 08:09:12 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-21 22:40:36 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 23:58:48 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-17 08:13:05 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-15 15:04:36 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-17 03:52:41 
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"Johnny" <th  2008-05-16 23:54:09 
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Bob Melson <melsonr@[E  2008-05-16 23:29:16 
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Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2008-05-17 13:49:09 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-17 14:05:35 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2008-05-15 11:22:47 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2008-05-15 12:52:03 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-17 04:04:09 
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clifto <clifto@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 22:02:08 
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JJ206 <jj206@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:48:44 
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Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 01:35:22 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-20 09:33:20 
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Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-20 13:26:42 
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John Prentice <john.pr  2008-05-20 11:41:11 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-21 11:25:45 
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"Bruce Remick"   2008-05-21 09:20:47 
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Kay Robinson <Kay_Robi  2008-05-22 18:50:35 
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-21 06:04:44 
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