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Re: Altavista better than Google for genealogy searches

by John Prentice <johnp.usenet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 21, 2008 at 10:58 AM

Gene Y. wrote:
> No, unfortunately my favorite genealogy program only runs on Windows so 
> that is what I am running. (XP) I hope to migrate to linux eventually.

Don't forget that Linux offers WINE, a Windows emulation that can run 
much of Microsoft's software, and a lot besides. It might be worth your 
while giving it a try. You'll need about 5-10GB free on your hard drive.

The good news is that you can try it out, on Linux, without having to 
replace your computer's operating system first. In fact, you essentially 
run Linux as you would any other Windows program, through a program 
called a "hypervisor", which provides Linux with an environment that 
looks to Linux like an "empty" PC.

It's called virtualisation, and we use it a lot at work. (Thanks Jon for 
getting me into it!)

It's not that fiddly to set up, and it's great for trying out new Linux 
versions - when you've finished the try-out, you can just delete the one 
or two files that contain the "virtual machine".

The even better news is that you can do all this for free!

I apologise in advance if you already know all of this, but the 
instructions that follow might be useful for others who want to tread 
the same path.


Getting the hypervisor
----------------------

Go to http://preview.tinyurl.com/2h5kxa

Select "Sun xVM VirtualBox 1.6"

Go through the song and dance to download the version you need (you 
DON'T have to give your details), and then install it.

Getting Linux
-------------

Now download the CD/DVD for the Linux version you want. I'd suggest 
Ubuntu Desktop Edition (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download),
and 
the rest of the instructions will reflect that.

Setting it up
-------------

Run xVM. Create a new virtual machine, and set up the obvious settings 
for it. You probably want to give it about 6GB disk space. When you get 
to the point of customising the virtual machine, tell xVM to pretend 
that the .ISO file (that you just downloaded) for the Linux distribution 
is the virtual machine's CD drive.

Now tell xVM to run the virtual machine. It should "boot" the Linux CD. 
Click inside the virtual machine's window, fill in the obvious questions 
in the obvious way, and let it do its stuff.

When it's ready to reboot the virtual machine, Ubuntu will tell you to 
remove the CD, and press ENTER. The trick is to come out of Ubuntu at 
that point, go into the virtual machine's settings in xVM, and tell it 
to reconnect the virtual machine's "CD drive" to the physical one on 
your machine. Re-enter the virtual machine, and press ENTER to let the 
virtual machine reboot. It should start up Ubuntu.

Customising Linux and loading your software
-------------------------------------------

Now, final step - when you've got into Ubuntu and logged in, click on 
Applications -> Terminal. In the terminal window, type:

     sudo apt-get install wine

It will ask you for your login password, and then go off and try to 
install 'wine'.

Assuming that succeeds, all you need to do is put your Family Tree Maker 
(I'm guessing it's that) CD in the CD drive, wait for the CD to pop up 
on Ubuntu's desktop, double-click on it, and then select the setup 
program. That's when you'll find whether it's worked or not.

Whether or not it does, you now have a Windows PC running Ubuntu, and 
you can tinker with it to your heart's delight without damaging your 
Windows setup. Just don't forget to "pause" your virtual machine before 
you close xVM, so that you don't lose any data in the VM.

Feel free to email me off-group if you've any questions, or hit any 
brick walls along the way. If you do succeed in running your genealogy 
software, let us know - others might like to try it too.

John
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-15 04:38:17 
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