Phil,
Listing of towns by Kreis location in the former Grand Duchy of Baden can
be
a wasted effort. When the Grand Duchy was formed in 1806, there were only
three Kreis. They grew something similar to US counties by land division.
By 1810 the country included ten Kreis identies. They have continued to
increase in number.
Today your town of Diersheim is within the consolidated town of Rheinau
within the Ortenaukreis but what the correct Kreis name, year by year of
your ancestors, may be very difficult to isolate. However, in looking at
various online Family Trees which incorrectly identify Kreis and Country
based on the Meyers Orts- many family genealogists do not seem to care.
Use whatever you want to use and you will be in fa****on with hundreds of
other ancestor seekers.
The Meyers Orts- does identify towns by location but this is a
geographical
identification and not a political identification. The Meyers Orts- can
be
guaranteed as correct for one full day in 1912 (maybe, depending on
preparation, editing and publi****ng). It covers a town as it existed in
1912 as long as that town was one of the towns within the formation of
1871
German Empire. The Meyers Orts- is a wonderful source to find a town but
worthless to identify political owner****p for any time before and after
1912.
If you get back to the early 1600s in your search, even the name of the
town
was not Diersheim but Oberdiersheim. Other spellings of Diersheim
preceded
that time period.
But after the formation of the Grand Duchy you would probably be more safe
not attempting to identify any Kreis. Before the formation of the Grand
Duchy is even worse. Diersheim may have been within the Bistum Straßburg
but with its heavy Protestant population, I doubt that owner****p. Trying
to
locate a of map of the era which identifies every small piece of the
patchwork appearance of the Badische area is difficult. Perhaps
Hohengeroldseck was the correct owner****p or possibly the Hessen territory
of Hanau-Lichtenberg would be the answer. In addition the Margraviate of
Baden-Durlach actually owned some southern lands in that section of what
became Baden.
My own ancestors from the Baden area lived in the Austrian Landvogtei
Ortenau of the Vorderösterreich (and the later Duchies of Modena and
Modena-Breisgau) with related families from the Margraviate of
Baden-Baden, the Bistum Straßburg, some of the Koster-owned towns
and several of the Reichsstädte. My wife's ancestors from the Baden area
lived within the Obervogteiamt Haslach, Herrschaft Kinzigtal, Grafschaft
Fürstenberg, later when the Fürstentenberg area was elevated from County
to a Princely land, Fürstentum Fürstenberg.
One of the many online maps which identify the area of Baden before the
formation of the Grand Duchy is <
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/german1_shepherd.jpg
>,
again a difficult read for a particular small area.
Dusring a few years of the Napoleonic era, the Grand Duchy was within the
Rheinbund but in 1866, the Grand Duchy of Baden was affliated with the
South German Federation and in 1871, it joined the German Empire.
Phil, if you use a Kreis for your town for Baden since the 1806, your
chances of being correct (unless you reach a learned history scholar at
Diersheim) will be close to zero.
djweber
djwdjw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to confuse more, the Ortenau historically was called the Mortenau.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillip Steffon" <bstevens27@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: <GEN-DE@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:43 PM
Subject: GEN-DE a Location ?
> Hello group , I am filling in a few of my Place names in my data base,
I
> am wondering if the following name is correct for time period 1700 to
1871
>
> Diersheim, Ortenaukreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg , please an thanks ,
Phil
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