Re: GEN-DE Help with death certificate abbreviations

On Apr 24, 11:47=A0pm, "Ryan Taber" <Ryan.Ta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> O.W. could simply be the father's initials...
>
> >>> <LNiema...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 4/24/2008 6:36 PM >>>
>
> Thanks for clarifying.
>
> If the deceased used the mother's name as his surname, it seems likely
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> O.W. means Out of Wedlock. If not, maybe someone else will come up with
a
> guess.
>
> As for "dis'd" maybe it means deceased and the person who filled out the
> form was misspelling: diceased. That seems like a stretch. Do you know
> whether the mother was deceased when her son died? If not, my guess
won't
> work.
>
> Lila
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <johnillenber...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.german
> To: <gen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: 24 April, 2008 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: GEN-DE Help with death certificate abbreviations
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> On Apr 23, 10:08 pm, <LNiema...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > We need to know the whole context, in order to analyze them. If O.W.
is
> > German it wouldn't stand for out of wedlock, and I doubt if out of
wedlo=
ck
> > would be on a Death Certificate written in English unless the deceased
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as
> > an infant or very young child.
>
> > I thought of disabled too--but tell us more! :-)
>
> > Lila
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ryan Taber" <ryan.ta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > To: <gen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Sent: 23 April, 2008 8:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: GEN-DE Help with death certificate abbreviations
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> > > Disabled? I have no idea why that would be im****tant on a death
> > > certificate, but it's an idea.
>
> > > Also, are these German or English records?
>
> > > Ryan
>
> > > On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:41 PM, johnillenber...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > >> I recently found these two abbreviations on a death certificate:
O.W.=

> > >> and dis'd. Can someone please tell me what they mean? While O.W.
> > >> probably means out of wedlock, I have no idea what dis'd means.
> > >> Thanks!
>
> > >> John Illenberger
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> Sorry for the brevity. This is for a male relative who died in the
> Bronx, New York in 1936. Under Father's Name is (dis'd) O.W. and under
> Mother's Name is Emma Stiebeling, (dis'd).
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> John Illenberger
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The father's name is not known! Also, I was in error on the date. The
boy died in 1889 - NOT 1936. I was going from memory. The Mother's
name was Emma Stiebeling, and the child's name was George Theodore
Albert Stiebeling. He died in New York City at 534 East 16th Street (a
tenement).

John Illenberger