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Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND

by Douglas Richardson <royalancestry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 07:53 PM

On May 6, 4:50 pm, Louise Staley <cara...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

< The Robert who married Maud Zouche was the son of Robert Holand of
< Upholland and Elizabeth Samlesbury. Maud/Matilda are used
< interchangeably.

Maud is the modern standardized form of this given name.  The
vernacular forms of this name in the medieval time period were Maud,
Maude, Maulde, Mahaud, Mahaut, Mahault, etc., but never Matilda.
Rather, Matilda is merely the Latin form of this name which you will
find in English medieval records which are written in Latin.   The
vernacular forms are completely different.

Thus, one set of forms are the vernacula forms.  The other (Matilda)
is  the Latin form.   The two sets of forms are not interchangeable,
any more than Henricus and Henrici  (Latin forms) are interchangeable
with Henry (the vernacular form).

Since before the last century, historians have standardized given
names to avoid utter confusion.  Hence we have Henry, Richard, Robert,
William, etc. in most modern historical accounts, rather than Henrye,
Rycharde, Robarte, and Willyam.   Likewise the Latin forms of these
names are avoided by historians, such as Henricus, Richardus,
Robertus, Gullielmus.  Ditto Matilda, Cecilia, Maria, Elizabetha,
Isabella, Agneta, etc..

I should add that I didn't invent this convention, but I do agree with
it.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, a descendant of the Holand family
 




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SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"Adrian Parry"   2008-05-06 19:06:31 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-06 15:28:15 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-06 15:34:32 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Louise Staley <caramut  2008-05-06 22:50:29 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"Patricia A. Junkin&  2008-05-06 20:31:03 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-06 19:53:46 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-06 22:33:40 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 05:59:23 
Re:Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 06:10:54 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 06:27:11 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 07:28:05 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 07:29:41 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 23:59:26 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 08:13:34 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 08:38:29 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 08:52:56 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 09:07:55 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 09:10:32 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 10:03:00 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 12:48:22 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 23:58:00 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-07 15:01:06 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-08 08:29:54 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 18:19:29 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:56:10 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-08 22:25:56 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 20:43:24 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 20:44:09 

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