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Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND

by Douglas Richardson <royalancestry@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 05:59 AM

My comments are interspersed below.  DR

On May 6, 9:33 pm, "John Foster" <ret...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Since before the last century, historians have standardized given> names
to avoid utter confusion.
>
> The last century is this one. Was a vote taken in 2001? I must have
missed
> it. If it was the previous century, what happened in 1901?

Before the last century is before 1900.

> Confusion does not seem to have been reduced, since I often see pages
and
> pages of debate about the same person here. Names with spellings used at
the
> time would seem to indicate LESS confusion since some could be
eliminated
> from thousands of names spelled exactly the same way. Must I blame
> historians for the sheer number of John Smiths?

Actually there is much LESS confusion in the literature due to the
standardization naming convention which I mentioned.   As I said, I
didn't invent the convention, but I do agree with it.

> Were there no countries earlier in the British Isles, since we now must
use
> Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The Republic of Ireland to match
the
> modern forms of ancient names? (sorry ... feeling grumpy today)

Yes, you certainly are a grumpy puss today, aren't you?.

>  Likewise the Latin forms of these
>
> > names are avoided by historians, such as Henricus, Richardus,
> > Robertus, Gullielmus.  Ditto Matilda, Cecilia, Maria, Elizabetha,
> > Isabella, Agneta, etc..
>
> Poor Matilda Ditto --- twice avoided --- the first when the written out
> "Ditto" referred to some previous name in a passenger list, now lost.
> Historians have reduced any number of surnames to merely
"Ditto".http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?surname=dit...
> Her parents appear to be Henry Ditto and Nancy Ann Bartlett.

Now you're being silly.  But at least you get my point, which is which
I wanted.

> > Best always, Douglas Richardson, a descendant of the Holand family
>
> Why not Holland then, the modern form of the surname?

The English surname is spelled Holand, not Holland.  Holland is the
county/country.   Holand is the English family.

DR
 




 28 Posts in Topic:
SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"Adrian Parry"   2008-05-06 19:06:31 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-06 15:28:15 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-06 15:34:32 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Louise Staley <caramut  2008-05-06 22:50:29 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"Patricia A. Junkin&  2008-05-06 20:31:03 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-06 19:53:46 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-06 22:33:40 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 05:59:23 
Re:Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 06:10:54 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 06:27:11 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 07:28:05 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 07:29:41 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 23:59:26 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 08:13:34 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 08:38:29 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 08:52:56 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 09:07:55 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 09:10:32 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 10:03:00 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Douglas Richardson <ro  2008-05-07 12:48:22 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
Renia <renia@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 23:58:00 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-07 15:01:06 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-08 08:29:54 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 18:19:29 
Re: Sir Robert de Holand
taf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-08 19:56:10 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
"John Foster" &  2008-05-08 22:25:56 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 20:43:24 
Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-05-08 20:44:09 

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