On May 7, 5:59 am, Douglas Richardson <royalances...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> My comments are interspersed below. DR
>
> On May 6, 9:33 pm, "John Foster" <ret...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Since before the last century, historians have standardized given>
names to avoid utter confusion.
>
> > The last century is this one. Was a vote taken in 2001? I must have
missed
> > it. If it was the previous century, what happened in 1901?
>
> Before the last century is before 1900.
>
> > Confusion does not seem to have been reduced, since I often see pages
and
> > pages of debate about the same person here. Names with spellings used
at the
> > time would seem to indicate LESS confusion since some could be
eliminated
> > from thousands of names spelled exactly the same way. Must I blame
> > historians for the sheer number of John Smiths?
>
> Actually there is much LESS confusion in the literature due to the
> standardization naming convention which I mentioned. As I said, I
> didn't invent the convention, but I do agree with it.
>
> > Were there no countries earlier in the British Isles, since we now
must use
> > Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The Republic of Ireland to
match the
> > modern forms of ancient names? (sorry ... feeling grumpy today)
>
> Yes, you certainly are a grumpy puss today, aren't you?.
>
> > Likewise the Latin forms of these
>
> > > names are avoided by historians, such as Henricus, Richardus,
> > > Robertus, Gullielmus. Ditto Matilda, Cecilia, Maria, Elizabetha,
> > > Isabella, Agneta, etc..
>
> > Poor Matilda Ditto --- twice avoided --- the first when the written
out
> > "Ditto" referred to some previous name in a passenger list, now lost.
> > Historians have reduced any number of surnames to merely
"Ditto".http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?surname=dit...
> > Her parents appear to be Henry Ditto and Nancy Ann Bartlett.
>
> Now you're being silly. But at least you get my point, which is which
> I wanted.
>
> > > Best always, Douglas Richardson, a descendant of the Holand family
>
> > Why not Holland then, the modern form of the surname?
>
> The English surname is spelled Holand, not Holland. Holland is the
> county/country. Holand is the English family.
To evaluate this claim, I did a Google search:
"Henry Holland": - 2,470,000
"Henry Holand": - 778
There are all kinds of caveats, but these data just about say it all.
taf
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