http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=utzing&id=I038857
George Neville, Bishop of Exter [1458] again....notable for his meals
served
later as Archbishop of York:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Neville
His enthronement as Archbishop of York took place in Cawood Castle in
September 1465 and to demonstrate the riches and power of his family,
twenty
eight peers, fifty nine knights, ten abbots, seven bishops, numerous
lawyers, clergy, esquires, and ladies, together with their attendants and
servants came to the castle. Together with the archbishop's own family and
servants there were about 2500 to be fed at each meal. They consumed 4000
pigeons and 4000 crays, 2000 chickens, 204 cranes, 104 peacocks, 100 dozen
quails, 400 swans and 400 herons, 113 oxen, six wild bulls, 608 pikes and
bream, 12 ****poises and seals, 1000 sheep, 304 calves, 2000 pigs, 1000
capons, 400 plovers, 200 dozen of a bird called 'rees' (i.e. ruffs), 4000
mallard and teals, 204 kids and 204 bitterns, 200 pheasants, 500
partridges,
400 woodcocks, 100 curlews, 1000 egrets, over 500 stags, bucks and roes,
4000 cold and 1500 hot venison pies, 4000 dishes of jelly, 4000 baked
tarts,
2000 hot custards with a pro****tionate quantity of bread, sugared
delicacies
and cakes, and 300 tuns of ale and 100 tuns of wine.
1.. ^ Christopher Hibbert The English. A Social History, 1066-1945. ISBN
0
246 12181 5 pages 10 and 11
2.. ^ Mitchell, R.J., and Leys, M.D.R. : A History of the English People
(1950) Pages 250 to 257
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From: "John Foster" <retsof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: "Louise Staley" <caramut@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
In the same file, I connect here at George Neville but sourcing for 2 or 3
generations could use some improvement. I need to revisit google books.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=utzing&id=I038857
http://thepeerage.com/p23.htm#i228
unknown wife of George Neville ("name known but to God and George
Neville")
dau. Alice Neville b. c1445 Thurland, Lancaster****re or York****re, England
marr. Lord Thomas Tunstall of whom more is known
LDS FHL AF # 9HH9- 9N (familysearch.org)\
'Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines' (Contributors: Manuel Abranches de
Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. Jacquier <Genealogy of Lewis Carroll,
Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes
Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French
Canadian
Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de
Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI, Paul Le****tier, Claude Barret>,
H.R. Moser <Burke Peerage>, L. Orlandini, O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E.
Polti, A.Terlinden <Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842>, L.
Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron <Brian Tompsett>, R.
Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H.
de
la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen)... http://geneastar.org.
'Ancestors/Descendants of Philip Wentworth' http:\\\\www.geneastar.org,
'29/07/2003' Lois & Dave Stephens dsteph1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATWP
Daughter D. Tunstall married William Thomas Layton
daughter Margaret Layton marr. Edwin Gilpin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentmere
son William Gilpin marr. Elizabeth Wa****ngton, great-great-aunt of
President
George Wa****ngton
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From: "Louise Staley" <caramut@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-medieval@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: SIR ROBERT HOLLAND
On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:06:31 +0100, "Adrian Parry"
<adrianp7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>The Heralds Visitations (see 1 below) show that Robert HOLLAND, Knt was
the
>son of John HOLLAND (the 1st Baron HOLLAND) and that he married Matilda,
>daughter and co-heir of Alan Lord Zouch of Asby de la Zouch. The
Britannia
>Biographies web-site shows that Robert was the son of Sir Robert HOLLAND
>and his wife Elizabeth (née SAMLESBURY) and that he married Maud (as
>opposed to Matilda).
>
>This is my first request to the list for guidance and I would very much
>appreciate learning which version is correct.
>
>Adrian
>
>
>(1) The Visitation of the County of Devon in the year 1564, with
additions
>from the earlier Visitation of 1531, edited by Frederick Thomas Colby,
D.D
The Robert who married Maud Zouche was the son of Robert Holand of
Upholland and Elizabeth Samlesbury. Maud/Matilda are used
interchangeably. See Complete Peerage Volume 6 pp.528-31 for details
of his life, ancestry and some descendants.
See http://tinyurl.com/4g5fkk
for a transcription of the Complete
Peerage entry for Sir Robert Holand, 1st Baron Holand.
Louise
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