On Mon 12/05/2008 23:22 "Douglas Richardson" <royalan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>There were three Maud de Swinnerton's who occur in this time period,
>not necessarily at the same time.
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>The first Maud de Swinnerton was Maud, widow of Roger de Swinnerton,
>Knt. She held a third part of the manor of Swinnerton, Stafford****re
>in dower. She occurs in deeds dated 1326-27 and 1356-57, and bore a
>bend as her arms-see Bridgeman, Fam. of Swynnerton (Colls. Hist.
>Staffs. 7(2)) (1886): 26-27, 39, 41-42). I presume she is the Lady
>Maud Swinnerton who presented to Swinnerton church in 1358.
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>The second Maud de Swinnerton was Maud de Holand, wife successively of
>John de Mowbray, Knt., 3rd Lord Mowbray, and Thomas de Swinnerton,
>Knt., 3rd Lord Swinnerton. This Maud's husband Thomas de Swinenrton
>was was the brother of Roger de Swinnerton, Knt. named above. Maud
>de Holand was living in 1342, as stated in my first post. There is no
>evidence that she survived her husband, Thomas de Swinnerton, who died
>in 1361. For all I know, she could well have predeceased him.
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>Finally there was a Maud, wife successively of John le Latimer (died
>1356) and Thomas de Swinnerton. She died as Thomas' widow in 1360.
>Canon Bridgeman identified her husband, Thomas de Swinnerton, as
>probably the son of Richard, son of Roger de Swinnerton, of
>Swinnerton. For particulars of this lady, see Complete Peerage, 7
>(1929): 454 (sub Latimer).
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>Alan Grey is correct that it is impossible to tell which Maud de
>Swinnerton is the one that is mentioned in the record dated 38 Edward
>III (i.e., 1364-1365). It could be either Maud#1 or Maud#2. However,
>since we have no evidence that Maud#2 survived her husband, my guess
>is that the lady living in 1364-1365 was Maud#1. That's purely a
>guess.
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>Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
I too found Alan Grey's extremely full details most helpful. So have I
understood your comments here correctly: we should now amend your previous
suggestion for the date of death of Maud de Holand to some time between 13
March 1342/3 and 10 May 1380?
Many thanks for your work on her life and marriages.
Peter G R Howarth
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