Dear Newsgroup ~
Sir Gilbert Pecche, Knt., 1st Lord Pecche, was styled "king's kinsman"
by King Edward II of England [Reference: Tout, The Place of the Reign
of Edward II in English Hist. (1914): 395].
The reference to Tout's comments may be viewed at the following
weblink:
http://search.live.com/books/#q=3D%22king's%20kinsman%22&filter=3Dall&page=
=3D1&t=3D891GnkRPJZetRfmL_PpL_Q&sq=3D%22king's%20kinsman%22
Tout suggests (correctly I think) that the kin****p betyween Gilbert
Pecche to the king comes through Gilbert Pecche's paternal
grandmother, Eve, wife of Hamon Pecche, which lady is known to have
been foreign born [see Complete Peerage, 10 (1945): 335, footnote b).
If so, it would seem that Eve Pecche was probably a near relative to
one of the foreign born queens of England. In 1242, for example, Eve
Pecche had license to go abroad.
We can be reasonably sure that Sir Gilbert Pecche was not related to
King Edward II of England through the English oryal family itself, as
Sir Gilbert's mother, Joan de Creye, is known to have married first to
Richard de Dover, a great-grandson of King John [see C.P. 10 (1945):
335=96336 (sub Pecche)]. Had Gilbert Pecche's father also been a
descendant of the English royal family, then Gilbert's parents would
have needed to obtain a dispensation for affinity when they married.
Another helpful clue is the reference to Eve , widow of Robert de
Valoines, being styled =93king=92s cousin=94 to King Edward I of England
[Reference: Cal. IPMs 2 (1906): 247; see also C.P. 12(2) (1959): 150
(sub Ufford)]. Due to the given name, Eve, I have speculated that Eve
de Valoines (died 1292) was a sister of Sir Gilbert Pecche, Knt., and
thus named for Gilbert's grandmother, Eve Pecche the foreigner.
If Gilbert Pecche and Eve de Valoines were in fact siblings, then the
connection to one of the the foreign born queens would necessarily
date before King Edward I's queen, Eleanor of Castile.
We're afforded one other possible clue to the identity of Sir Gilbert
Pecche's grandmother, Eve Pecche. Complete Peerage, 10 (1945): 334
tells us that the marriage of this Eve's husband, Hamon Pecche, was
granted in 1213 to Hugh de Boves, a French knight. Hugh de Boves was
not near related to the English royal family, but he might well have
had a near kinswoman that was. My research indicates that Sir Hugh
de Boves was styled "kinsman" [nepoti] by Hugh de Gournay in 1210
[Reference: Gurney, The record of the house of Gournay (1858): 763].
This reference can be found at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=3DgFUBAAAAQAAJ&pg=3DPA763&lpg=3DPA763&dq=3D=
%22Hugh+de+Boves%22&source=3Dweb&ots=3D_wsk0phf-5&sig=3DL5E_e12RyaADU9R14Qs8=
5JFylas&hl=3Den
The kin****p of Hugh de Boves and Hugh de Gournay is elsewhere noted in
the recent book, The Norman Frontier in the Twelfth and Early
Thirteenth Centuries (2004), by Daniel Power, pg. 359. This citation
may be viewed at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=3DUrjF6T6JZvYC&pg=3DPA359&dq=3D%22Hugh+de+B=
oves%22&lr=3D&sig=3DJptbK3qtZbuE2f7wbCRbR9Q-2j8
For interest's sake, I should note that there is at least one 17th
Century New World immigrant that descends from Sir Gilbert Pecche,
Knt., 1st Lord Pecche, namely Jane (Lawrence) Giddings, of New
England. As for Eve (_____), widow of Robert de Valoines, I find that
she is ancestral to over 50 New World immigrants, who are listed
below.
This matter deserves further research.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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List of Colonial Immigrants descended from Eve (_____) de Valoines
(died 1292).
l. Elizabeth Alsop.
2. Henry, Thomas & William Batte.
3. Anne Baynton.
4. William Bladen.
5. George & Nehemiah Blakiston.
6. Thomas Booth.
7. Elizabeth Bosvile.
8. George, Giles & Robert Brent.
9. Obadiah Bruen.
10. Stephen Bull.
11. Nathaniel Burrough.
12. Elizabeth Butler.
13. Charles Calvert.
14. Edward Carleton.
15. Kenelm Cheseldine.
16. Grace Chetwode.
17. Jeremy Clarke.
18. William Clopton.
19. St. Leger Codd.
20. Francis Dade.
21. Anne Derehaugh.
22. Edward Digges.
23. Thomas Dudley.
24. John Fenwick.
25. Henry Fleete.
26. Muriel Gurdon.
27. Jane Haviland.
28. Warham Horsmanden.
29. Anne Humphrey.
30. Edmund Jennings.
31. Edmund, Edward, Richard, & Matthew Kempe.
32. Roger & Thomas Mallory.
33. Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield.
34. Anne & Katherine Marbury.
35. Elizabeth Marshall.
36. Anne Mauleverer.
37. Philip & Thomas Nelson.
39. Ellen Newton.
40. Thomas Owsley.
41. John Oxenbridge.
42. Herbert Pelham.
43. Henry & William Randolph.
44. Thomas Rudyard.
45. Katherine Saint Leger.
46. Maria Johanna Somerset.
47. John Stockman.
48. Jemima Waldegrave.
49. John West.
50. Thomas Wingfield.
51. Hawte Wyatt.
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