Thank you very much for the information-is Saxo Grammaticus the earliest
source that mentions Ingegard and Cecilie?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, M.Sjostrom <qsj5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> The question, in my view, seems basically to be that no
near-contem****ary
> source explicitly mentions the two girls as being daughters of queen
Edel=
..
>
> And many Scandinavian monarchs of the era had mistresses, whose children
> were treated as royals, without *much* difference compared with the
> legitimately born ones.
>
> However, no source explicitly states that they were *not* queen Edel's
> daughters.
>
> Some have tried to read big things from the fact that when the royal
dadd=
y
> got murdered, these girls seem to have found their way to exile in the
> neighboring Sweden, taken by their paternal uncle Erik, later king Erik
I
> the Evergood.
> Whereas queen Edel fled to her native Flanders, seemingly taking her
baby
> son, Karl (Charles, later a count of Flanders) with her.
> But these diverging exilic routes may just have been caused by
expediency=
,
> and the girls (who occasionally are said to have been twins) anyway
appea=
r
> to have been some years older than their very-recently born brother.
(The
> girls did not need the mother any longer as much at the time...)
>
> King K**** IV, the saint, is renowned as a pious man, not seemingly
having
> mistress(es) when married. Indeed, while many other Scandinavian
monarchs=
'
> mistresses who birthed kids to their king, are mentioned by name in
legen=
ds
> and/or archives, there is no mention of king K****'s mistress...
> The habit of the era, kings having kids by mistresses, is thus much less
> likely as to king K**** IV.
>
> I think the last one about this maternity question, from the research,
ha=
s
> been:
> Gall=E9n, Jarl (1985), 'Knut den helige och Adela av Flandern.
Europeiska
> kontakter och genealogiska konsekvenser.' [Canute the Saint and Adela of
> Flanders: European connections and genealogical consequences]. In:
Studie=
r i
> =E4ldre historia till=E4gnade Herman Sch=FCck 5/4. Stockholm, pp.49-66.
>
> Prof. Gall=E9n's conclusion in this was that the two girls probably,
very
> likely, were daughters of Edel of Flanders.
> One cannot however be perfectly sure of that filiation...
>
>
>
>
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