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Re: Ferrers to Ferris - help solve a genealogical relation mystery?

by "alden@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <alden@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 1, 2008 at 04:28 PM

On Jul 1, 6:39=A0pm, Rob <resh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> (FYI, the man who invented the famous Ferris Wheel of Chicago is
> descended from this lineage below, supposedly so)
>
> Hello, I have been uncertain and mystified by a genealogical relation
> of the Ferrers of Tamworth to Richard Ferris (b. 1585? at Tamworth
> Castle, Baddesley, Warwick****re, England? =A0- d. 1614 at
> Leicester****re). His wife is unknown (previously it was Ann St. John,
> yet unproven) and left issue: his son, Geoffrey or Jeffrey Ferris (b.
> 1610 - d. 31 May 1666).
>
> This is what I pulled up from
TudorPlace.com:http://www.tudorplace.com.ar=
/FERRERS.htm#Geoffrey%20FERRERS1
>
> What really seem quite a stretch for me is his marriage to "Anne
> Howard", the daughter of Thomas Howard, 20th Earl of Arundel and
> Countess Alethea Talbot. I've find no evidence of her existence or
> being the daughter of that Earl.
>
> I've tried different sources to find any proven relation between them
> but inconclusively so far.
>
> Accordingly, the son of Richard, Jeffrey Ferris was described as a
> tall, young man with red hair and blue eyes from Derby****re or
> thereabout. He was a Protestant joining the wave of English
> Protestants from either Suffolk, England or from Holland to the New
> World America, establi****ng the Ferris family in America. He had about
> 3-4 wives and have children, mostly from "Anne Howard".
>
> Can anyone help out solve the genealogical relation of Richard Ferris
> to the Ferrers of Tamworth, descended from the Baron Grosby Ferrers
> family, as seen below?
>
> Richard Ferris (1585 - 1614)
> b. 1585 at Tamworth Castle, Baddesley, Warwick****re, England
> m. Unknown spouse of Richard Ferris
> d. 1614 at Leicester****re, England
>
> Richard's Parents: Humphrey Ferrers (1549), Anne Bradborne (1563)
> Richard's Children: Jeffrey Ferris (1610)
> Events in Richard Ferris's life
> 1585 =A0 =A0 - =A0- Richard Ferris was born; Tamworth Castle, Baddesley,
> Warwick****re, England
> 1614 =A0 =A029 - Richard Ferris died; Leicester****re, England
>
> -1. Humphrey Ferrers (1549 - 1608)
> =A0Richard's Father (supposedly)
> b. 1549 at Tamworth Castle, Warwick****re, England
> m. 1584 Anne Bradborne =A0at Tamworth Castle, Warwick****re, England
> d. 1608
>
> Humphrey's Parents: John Ferrers (1514), Barbara Cockaine (1517)
> Humphrey's Children: Richard Ferris (1585)
> Events in Humphrey Ferrers's life
> 1549 =A0 =A0 - =A0- Humphrey Ferrers was born; Tamworth Castle,
Warwicksh=
ire,
> England
> 1584 =A0 =A035 - Married Anne Bradborne (aged 21); Tamworth Castle,
> Warwick****re, England
> 1608 =A0 =A059 - Humphrey Ferrers died;
>
> -2. John Ferrers (1514 - 1576)
> =A0Richard's Grandfather
> b. 1514 at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> m. 1534 Barbara Cockaine =A0at Ashbourne, Derby****re, England
> d. 1576 at Ashbourne, Derby****re, England
>
> John's Parents: Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers (1493), Margaret Pigot
> (1487)
> John's Children: Humphrey Ferrers (1549)
> Events in John Ferrers's life
> 1514 =A0 =A0 - =A0- John Ferrers was born; Tamworth, Stafford****re,
Engla=
nd
> 1534 =A0 =A020 - Married Barbara Cockaine (aged 17); Ashbourne,
Derby****r=
e,
> England
> 1576 =A0 =A062 - John Ferrers died; Ashbourne, Derby****re, England
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Barbara Cockaine; England
>
> -3. Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers (1493 - 1553)
> =A0Richard's gGrandfather
> b. 1493 at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> m. 1513 Margaret Pigot =A0at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> d. 1553 at England
>
> Humphrey's Parents: John of Tamworth Ferrers (1470), Dorothy Harper
> (1470)
> Humphrey's Children: John Ferrers (1514)
> Events in Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers's life
> 1493 =A0 =A0 - =A0- Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers was born; Tamworth,
> Stafford****re, England
> 1513 =A0 =A020 - Married Margaret Pigot (aged 26); Tamworth,
Stafford****r=
e,
> England
> 1553 =A0 =A060 - Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers died; England
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Margaret Pigot; England
>
> -4. John of Tamworth Ferrers (1470 - 1515)
> =A0Richard's ggGrandfather
> b. 1470 at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> m. 1482 Dorothy Harper =A0at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> d. 1515
>
> John's Parents: John of Hambleton Ferrers (1442), Maude Stanley (1444)
> John's Children: Humphrey of Tamworth Ferrers (1493)
> Events in John of Tamworth Ferrers's life
> 1470 =A0 =A0 - =A0- John of Tamworth Ferrers was born; Tamworth,
Stafford=
****re,
> England
> 1482 =A0 =A012 - Married Dorothy Harper (aged 12); Tamworth,
Stafford****r=
e,
> England
> 1515 =A0 =A045 - John of Tamworth Ferrers died;
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Dorothy Harper; England
>
> -5. John of Hambleton Ferrers (1442 - 1499)
> =A0Richard's gggGrandfather
> b. 1442 at Hambleton, Rutland, East Midlands, England
> m. 1472 Maude Stanley =A0at England
> d. 1499 at England
>
> John's Parents: Thomas II de Ferrers (1420), Anne Hastings (1423)
> John's Children: John of Tamworth Ferrers (1470)
> John's Siblings: Mabel de Ferrers (1445)
>
> Events in John of Hambleton Ferrers's life
> 1442 =A0 =A0 - =A0- John of Hambleton Ferrers was born; Hambleton,
Rutlan=
d,
> East Midlands, England
> 1472 =A0 =A030 - Married Maude Stanley (aged 28); England
> 1499 =A0 =A057 - John of Hambleton Ferrers died; England
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Maude Stanley; England
>
> -6. Thomas II de Ferrers (1420 - 1499)
> =A0Richard's 4gGrandfather
> b. abt 1420 at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
> m. Anne Hastings
> d. 22 Aug 1499 at Tamworth, Stafford****re, England
>
> Thomas's Parents: Thomas I de Ferrers (1401), Elizabeth Freville
> (1398)
> Thomas's Children: John of Hambleton Ferrers (1442), Mabel de Ferrers
> (1445)
> Events in Thomas II de Ferrers's life
> abt 1420 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - =A0- Thomas II de Ferrers was born; Tamworth,
=
Stafford****re,
> England
> 22 Aug 1499 =A0 =A0 79 - Thomas II de Ferrers died; Tamworth,
Stafford****=
re,
> England
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Anne Hastings; England
>
> -7. Thomas I de Ferrers (1401 - 1458)
> =A0Richard's 5gGrandfather
> b. 1401 at Groby, Leicester****re, England
> m. 1437 Elizabeth Freville =A0at Groby, Leicester****re, England
> d. 06 Jan 1458 at Groby, Leicester****re, England
>
> Thomas's Parents: William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1373),
> Philippa Clifford (1371)
> Thomas's Children: Thomas II de Ferrers (1420)
> Thomas's Siblings: Henry Ferrers (1390), Margaret Ferrers (1407)
> Events in Thomas I de Ferrers's life
> 1401 =A0 =A0 - =A0- Thomas I de Ferrers was born; Groby, Leicester****re,
> England
> 1437 =A0 =A036 - Married Elizabeth Freville (aged 39); Groby,
Leicestersh=
ire,
> England
> 06 Jan 1458 =A0 =A0 57 - Thomas I de Ferrers died; Groby,
Leicester****re,
> England
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Death of wife Elizabeth Freville;
Warwick****re,=
 England
>
> -8. William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1373 - 1445)
> =A0Richard's 6gGrandfather
> b. 1373 at Groby, Leicester****re, England
> m. 1391 Philippa Clifford =A0at Brough Castle, Westmoreland, England
> d. 18 May 1445 at Woodham Ferrers, Es***, England
>
> William,'s Parents: Henry, IV Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1355), Joan
> Hoo (1358)
> William,'s Children: Henry Ferrers (1390), Thomas I de Ferrers (1401),
> Margaret Ferrers (1407)
> Events in William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers's life
> 1373 =A0 =A0 - =A0- William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers was born;
Groby,
> Leicester****re, England
> 1391 =A0 =A018 - Married Philippa Clifford (aged 20); Brough Castle,
> Westmoreland, England
> 1441 =A0 =A068 - Death of wife Philippa Clifford (aged 70); Baddesley
Ens=
or,
> Stafford****re, England
> 18 May 1445 =A0 =A0 72 - William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers died;
Woodh=
am
> Ferrers, Es***, England
>
> -9. Henry, IV Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1355 - 1387)
> b. 16 Feb 1355 at Abbey of Tiltey, England
> m. Joan Hoo
> d. 03 Feb 1387
>
> Henry,'s Parents: William, III Baron of Grosby de Ferrers (1333),
> Margaret d'Ufford (1330)
> Henry,'s Children: William, V Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1373)
> Henry,'s Siblings: Margaret Ferrers (1357)
> 16 Feb 1355 =A0 =A0 =A0- =A0- Henry, IV Baron of Groby de Ferrers was
bor=
n; Abbey
> of Tiltey, England
> 03 Feb 1387 =A0 =A0 31 - Henry, IV Baron of Groby de Ferrers died;
>
> -10. William, III Baron of Grosby de Ferrers (1333 - 1371)
> =A0Richard's 8gGrandfather
> b. 28 Feb 1333 at Newbold Verdon, Leicester****re, England
> m. 25 Apr 1344 Margaret d'Ufford =A0at Groby, Leicester****re, England
> d. 08 Jan 1371 at Stebbing, Es***, England
>
> William,'s Parents: Henry, II Baron of Groby de Ferrers (1303), Isabel
> de Verdun (1317)
>
> =3D=3Dend=3D=3D

See:

Rosie Bevan, A Study of A Medieval Knightly Family: The Longfords of
Derby****re, Part 2, Foundations, Vol. 1, Number 5, Jan 2005, pps
344-372.  CP (Ferrers of Chartley).  'Historical Collections of
Stafford****re', or 'Collections for a History of
Stafford****re' (edited by The William Salt Archaeological Society, New
Series volume 1, printed in 1898).  Visitation (Warwick****re,
1619+1682-3, Ferrers of Tamworth Castle).

I have not seen any evidence that Sir Humphrey Ferrers (d. 1608) had a
son Richard.

Doug Smith
 




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Ferrers to Ferris - help solve a genealogical relation mystery?
Rob <reshund@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-01 15:39:05 
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"alden@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-01 16:28:08 
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wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-07-01 20:33:42 
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Charani <SGBNOSPAM@[EM  2008-07-02 08:09:42 
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wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-07-02 01:00:37 
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Matthew Connolly <mver  2008-07-02 01:31:03 
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Rob <reshund@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-02 17:27:54 
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Rob <reshund@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-02 17:29:23 
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Rob <reshund@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-02 17:33:18 
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wjhonson <wjhonson@[EM  2008-07-02 17:52:32 
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Rob <reshund@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-02 20:30:48 
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