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Ryurik of Old Ladoga and Novgorod had Finnic patriline ?

by "M.Sjostrom" <qsj5@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 4, 2008 at 01:32 PM

the six, or five, Ryurikids tested, according to traditional genealogy come
from the family tree which branches in following spots:

gen I  Yaroslav Vladimirovich, monarch of Novgorod and Kiev, bc 980s
sons included:

gen II  Svyatoslav Yaroslavich, bc 1027, ancestor of the Chernigov -
founder of the lineage which produced the Puzyna
  
gen II  Vsevolod Yaroslavich, bc 1030, ancestor of big-russian lines
son:

gen III  Vladimir Vsevolodich 'the Monomakh', b 1053
sons included:

gen IV  Mstislav Vladimirich, b 1076 - his son gen V Rostislav of Smolensk
had son  gen VI David of Smolensk, whose son gen VII Mstislav of Smolensk
had son gen VIII Rostislav of Smolensk bc 1210s, whose two sons gen IX
Gleb of Smolensk (bc 1230s) and gen IX Fedor of Yaroslavl (bc 1238)
started the two branches which led, respectively, probably to the
Mozharovsky and certainly to the Solomin

gen IV  Yuriy Vladimirich 'Dolgorukiy', bc 1090s, George I of Russia,
whose youngest son was:

gen V, Vsevolod Yuriyevich 'the Great Nest', b 1154;
whose sons included:

gen VI, Kostantin Vsevolodich, prince of Rostov, bc 1186, who should be
ancestor of the Lobanov-Rostovski sample

gen VI,  seemingy the youngest, Ivan Vsevolodich 'Kasha', prince of
Starodub, b 1198, who should be ancestor of the two Gagarin samples


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the branchings of the samples in table above, seemingly branched in II,
IV, VI and IX generation.
Which are, generally, around 20-29 generations earlier than samples.

(except the two Gagarins are much closer kinsmen of each other,
practically only one sample in this view)

This set of results surprises me a bit: so many mutations in one little
millennium; so many mutations in just about 20 generations. wow.
 




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