Thank you, Doug. It would seem then, that there is a confusion
concerning Harefield. Why would Geoffrey's daughter be called "Alice
de Clare" in the 12 century deeds?
Pat
On Jul 5, 2008, at 6:07 AM, alden@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Jul 5, 12:50 am, "Patricia A. Junkin" <pajun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> Several sources state that Baldwin de Clare had a son Geoffrey who
>> had
>> a daughter Alice/Aline. This Alice married Hugh de Claghull and
>> Remfridus, probably without issue.
>>
>> British History Online:"There was a priest in the manor of Harefield
>> in 1086, (fn. 20) but nothing further is known concerning the church
>> until the late 12th century. At that time Beatrice de Bollers, and
>> her
>> son, Geoffrey son of Baldwin, who seem to have owned Harefield manor,
>> (fn. 21) gave the advowson to the Knights Hospitallers. (fn. 22)."
>>
>> An account of Harefield in An historical account of those parishes in
>> the county of Middle***, which are not described in the Environs of
>> London.
>> p. 105 fn suggests that "The deeds if Alice de Clare are of uncertain
>> date, but they appear as ancient as the 12th century; and we must
>> suppose them to have been not later that the middle of the century,
>> to
>> render Alice de Clare's possession of the manor of Harefield
>> consistent with the long possession of the Bacheworths and their
>> ancestors."
>>
>> http://www.boyntons.us/york****re/people/boyntontriangle/joan1231/
>> joan...
>> : Ingelram (de Boviton) and his wife Joan, are mentioned in a
>> Lincoln****re fine.7 It appears that three weeks from Easter Day, 6
>> Henry III (23rd April, 1222) there was a fine between Geoffrey, son
>> of
>> Baldwin, plaintiff, by Ralph de Warevill, put in his place, and
>> Ingelram de Boynton and Joan his wife, deforciants, of two carucates
>> of land in Orreby, to wit, of all lands and tenements which the said
>> Ingelram and Joan held in dower of the said Joan, in Lindsey, of the
>> inheritance....
>>
>> Could anyone suggest who this Baldwin de Clare and son Geoffrey might
>> have been. I have failed to find them in any de Clare pedigrees.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Pat
>
> See DD, pps 357, 889.
>
> Beatrice de Bullers was married to Baldwin fitz Geoffrey fitz Haimo,
> the Steward of Earl Gilbert de Clare. They had a son Geoffrey.
>
> Doug Smith
>
>
> Doug Smith
>
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