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Re: Beyond GEDCOM

by melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Melson) Jul 17, 2007 at 04:39 PM

In article <1184689853.767732.28500@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
	"the_verminator@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <the_verminator@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> On Jul 17, 12:34 am, Lars Eighner <use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Here is the problem:  GEDCOM has become the de facto standard for
family
>> history and geneology data.  And the problem with that is that the
Mormons
>> own GEDCOM and thus it is rife with built-in religious limitations.
>>
>> As you might expect, GEDCOM does not allow you to enter a family
created by
>> same-*** marriage or civil unions even where they are lawful.  But
there are
>> other limitations.  For example, in GEDCOM 5.xx, an adopted child does
not
>> belong to his family.  When he looks up his family in a
GEDCOM-compliant
>> file, he is not there.  How needlessly hurtful is that?
>>
>> If a guy marries his 14-year-old cousin as his fifth wife, GEDCOM has
no
>> problem dealing with that kind of family.  But it cannot handle the
Brady
>> Bunch.
>>
>> Now I suppose you could defend GEDCOM by saying it is supposed to
record
>> only genetic --- that is, biological --- relation****ps.  And of course,
>> there are im****tant scientific and especially medical uses for that
kind of
>> information.  But it is not really true that GEDCOM records biological
>> relation****ps.  It presumes that the husband of a woman who bears a
child is
>> the father of the child, and we know since there is now DNA testing
that
>> assumption is untrue in a significant ****tion of cases.
>>
>> Which brings me to my point.  I'd like to develop a family history
system
>> that is as compatible with GEDCOM as possible (since it is, as I have
said,
>> the de facto standard with tons of software applications), but with
>> extensions to handle many diverse kinds of families that exist both in
>> modern America and in many traditional cultures.
>>
>> So, I would be grateful for any pointers to existing software that
handles
>> all families or suggestions for extensions.
>>
>> --
>> Lars Eighner     <http://larseighner.com/>
   
<http://myspace.com/larseighner>
>>                          Countdown: 553 days to go.
>> Owing to massive spam from googlegroups, I do not see most posts from
there.
> 
> Check out The Master Genealogist.
> 
> As an aside you should note that any program that depends on GEDCOM
> for anything other basic BMD info will have serious shortcomings
> depending on how the ex****ting and im****ting software follow the
> GEDCOM "standard" - which, imho, should be scrapped in its entirety.
> 
> 

Out of curiosity, what would you suggest replace the gedcom
"standard"?  Is the problem so much with the standard or with
the programs that implement it?  As Micro$oft and Oracle have
amply proved, a standard exists as a standard only so long as
the players consider themselves bound by it; once the standard
is breached it becomes meaningless.

Bob Melson


-- 
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer
 




 51 Posts in Topic:
Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-17 05:34:54 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-17 09:06:49 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-17 09:30:53 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-17 16:39:26 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-17 17:10:04 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-17 23:34:42 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:05:01 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-19 00:04:34 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-17 18:00:30 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:08:21 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:00:17 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ernie Wright <erniew@[  2007-07-17 22:00:22 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 02:07:01 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-17 22:50:33 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 03:55:19 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 00:41:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 07:45:07 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 12:31:00 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-18 18:19:54 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 15:43:14 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:09:58 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-19 09:14:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-07-21 10:56:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 23:58:02 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-19 10:22:08 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-18 17:50:32 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 23:51:48 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 07:51:33 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-20 18:39:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-18 08:47:20 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-18 14:05:21 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 05:07:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 01:28:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
David Harper <devnull@  2007-07-18 19:07:36 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:00:00 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:13:07 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-19 10:24:39 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-19 16:42:12 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-19 18:06:14 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-18 12:47:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-07-18 17:26:51 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 07:51:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 20:53:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-19 15:58:31 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 23:29:52 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-20 01:50:46 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-19 18:47:12 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 02:28:10 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 11:12:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-21 05:12:51 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 19:39:25 

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