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Re: Beyond GEDCOM

by melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Melson) Jul 18, 2007 at 08:53 PM

In article <1184788031.775481.5100@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
	"the_verminator@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <the_verminator@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> On Jul 17, 11:39 am, mels...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Robert Melson)
<snip>
>> Out of curiosity, what would you suggest replace the gedcom
>> "standard"?  Is the problem so much with the standard or with
>> the programs that implement it?  As Micro$oft and Oracle have
>> amply proved, a standard exists as a standard only so long as
>> the players consider themselves bound by it; once the standard
>> is breached it becomes meaningless.
>>
>> Bob Melson
> 
> I suggest a narrative text file. That is what I give others to whom I
> provide information. Thus, I am free to give exactly the information I
> want to give complete with cautions and warnings about sources,
> citations, etc.
> 
> If I'm provided with a gedcom I'll im****t it to a database and then
> print out an individual re****t on each person to see what exactly I
> want to enter into my main program.
> 
> A second benefit is that unless someone wants to do a LOT of typing
> I'm unlikely to see my work spread over the internet willy-nilly
> without crediting me as the source of the information.
> 
> I'll gladly provide info on individuals but balk at providing whole
> lines to name collectors.
> 
> I'd even go so far as to say that the GEDCOM has done more to hurt
> online genealogy than it has to help it as it allows the almost
> instantanous transmission of unsourced genealogical garbage and does
> too little to encourage sound genealogical research (i.e. mandatory
> entry of standard sources and citations).
> 
> 
But is that latter a fault of the GEDCOM standard or of its
implementation in, e.g., FTM?  Keep in mind that GEDCOM is
a data exchange standard and nothing more and has nothing to do
with how you or I conduct our research or how strictly we adhere
to standards for sourcing, etc.   The fact that the data
exchange standard has no provision for "sanitizing" the data
being exchanged is, I think, beyond the scope of the standard.
The failure, if failure it is, is in the programs in use and in
the people using them.  While it's not a 100% cure - source info
CAN be "cooked" - wouldn't it be better if the various programs
prevented data entry without sourcing or a statement like "No
source available"?

Bob Melson

-- 
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
-----
"People unfit for freedom---who cannot do much with it---are
hungry for power." ---Eric Hoffer
 




 51 Posts in Topic:
Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-17 05:34:54 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-17 09:06:49 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-17 09:30:53 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-17 16:39:26 
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Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-17 17:10:04 
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Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-17 23:34:42 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:05:01 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-19 00:04:34 
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melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-17 18:00:30 
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Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:08:21 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 01:00:17 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ernie Wright <erniew@[  2007-07-17 22:00:22 
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melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 02:07:01 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-17 22:50:33 
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melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 03:55:19 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 00:41:29 
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mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 07:45:07 
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Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 12:31:00 
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Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-18 18:19:54 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 15:43:14 
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Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:09:58 
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Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-19 09:14:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-07-21 10:56:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 23:58:02 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-19 10:22:08 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-18 17:50:32 
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Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-18 23:51:48 
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mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 07:51:33 
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Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-20 18:39:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-18 08:47:20 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-18 14:05:21 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 05:07:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Denis Beauregard <deni  2007-07-18 01:28:44 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
David Harper <devnull@  2007-07-18 19:07:36 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:00:00 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Peter J Seymour <moz@[  2007-07-19 09:13:07 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Ian Goddard <goddai01@  2007-07-19 10:24:39 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-19 16:42:12 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Lars Eighner <usenet@[  2007-07-19 18:06:14 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-18 12:47:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
singhals <singhals@[EM  2007-07-18 17:26:51 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 07:51:29 
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melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-18 20:53:11 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-19 15:58:31 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-19 23:29:52 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Wes Groleau <groleau+n  2007-07-20 01:50:46 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
"the_verminator@[EMA  2007-07-19 18:47:12 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 02:28:10 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
mojaveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 11:12:29 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
Hugh Watkins <hugh.wat  2007-07-21 05:12:51 
Re: Beyond GEDCOM
melsonr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-07-20 19:39:25 

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